Homebrew Thread

I have no respect for shovelware developers.

Then why in hell would you want to play their games?

I hope you have significant evidence of software piracy hurting good developers (or any kind of piracy causing damage to any competent content creator).

It's not about that, it's about doing the equivalent of spitting in their face. Any game you illegally download is a game that you could have bought. If it's not worth your money, just don't play it. If you think a publisher is overcharging, too bad, just don't play it. Wait for a sale. There is absolutely no argument that makes piracy moral. I guess your username is right.

So is it still able to downgrade o3ds? I want to wait more for my sd card.

Yeah. downgrading the O3DS is mandatory. You should do it now. I told you can just transfer your data to a new SD card fine later on.

Oh, so now it's MANDATORY to do something that's completely useless and carries an unnecessary risk and requires technical knowledge to maintain? Yeah, right.

You are arguing about piracy with a pirate. I don't think you could possibly win. However, there is evidence that pirating hurts game developers.

So is it still able to downgrade o3ds? I want to wait more for my sd card.

Yeah. downgrading the O3DS is mandatory. You should do it now. I told you can just transfer your data to a new SD card fine later on.

Oh, so now it's MANDATORY to do something that's completely useless and carries an unnecessary risk and requires technical knowledge to maintain? Yeah, right.

I think he just means it is mandatory to downgrade if you want cfw. If you don't want to risk it, no one's making you downgrade.

And now it might not even be necessary to downgrade the N3DS anymore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds3BORGqXks

You understand that that's just demonstrating support for 10.3 emuNAND on New 3DS, and that he's clearly on sysNAND 9.2?

@NeatNit Piracy needs no evidence -- it's just common sense as stealing is plain wrong. But if some people's moral compasses are already broken or nonexistent, no amount of evidence can convince them otherwise. I've volunteered at a mental facility and have heard plenty of patients telling me that killing is good for the society, and the guidelines say to never argue with them but just report their comments to my supervisors. To me this is the same.

I don't think you can actually pirate with homebrew (easily) you can mod though.

Oh.... Can I do this on a new 3ds?

Actually, when you use the BrowserHax Exploit on the New Nintendo 3DSXL, you will be able to access the exploit much faster than you would on the Original Nintendo 3DS/XL. The link should be easily accessed by the Homebrew Launcher Exploit Portal when you select the BrowserHax option.

@NeatNit Piracy needs no evidence -- it's just common sense as stealing is plain wrong. But if some people's moral compasses are already broken or nonexistent, no amount of evidence can convince them otherwise. I've volunteered at a mental facility and have heard plenty of patients telling me that killing is good for the society, and the guidelines say to never argue with them but just report their comments to my supervisors. To me this is the same.

This isn't Bernie Sanders political campaign. Every argument needs evidence. You say piracy is bad then you have to prove it.

However, there is evidence that pirating hurts game developers.

Sure, shovelware developers. If you have any evidence of piracy hurting any successful content creator, please bring it up. In the end, piracy is advertising. You're not stealing anything. You can pirate an audio CD, but you're not stealing the authors abilities. If the artist is good, more people will attend their concerts and buy their future albums. If it's a bad artist, however, his career will pretty sure be doomed. It's the same for films. Sure a bad movie can use fancy commercials and trailers to lure a bunch of fools into the cinemas, but even a simple camrip can decide its fate. Game piracy makes more people buy the console, which obviously increases games' sales (and merchandising, DLC, etcetera). We have plenty of examples... the most successful consoles had ranpant piracy.

Nuuuuuu I updated to 10.4 but didn't update me hax...menuhax nor browserhax work ;-; I want me hax back help pls Also, how to downgrade pls

Also, how to downgrade pls

Memchunkhax2 was patched with 10.4. Sorry. You can't downgrade.

Every argument needs evidence.

Not arguments that both sides already agree upon.

However, there is evidence that pirating hurts game developers.

Sure

But statements on which there is disagreement need evidence.

In the end... You're not stealing anything.

And statements which are outright false need to be avoided.

Also, how to downgrade pls

Memchunkhax2 was patched with 10.4. Sorry. You can't downgrade.

SON OF A B- SOSMNEPVPQMWBRBNWNSKXPPQPNRNVSHZJWNDKCJXJJWNQ

Also, how to downgrade pls

Memchunkhax2 was patched with 10.4. Sorry. You can't downgrade.

SON OF A B- SOSMNEPVPQMWBRBNWNSKXPPQPNRNVSHZJWNDKCJXJJWNQ

I know how you must feel... Is memchunkhax2 already out?

Every argument needs evidence. You say piracy is bad then you have to prove it.

A pirate who speaks of evidence and research? I'm impressed. Maybe you can engage in an intellectual argument unlike most wannabe 13yo kids who don't give a damn to copyright infringements (a federal crime punishable by <5 year of jail time and <$250,000, under Title 17, United States Code, Sections 501 and 506) and just want free stuffz. Very well, I shall entertain the idea of debating with a pirate with research-based evidence this time. Hopefully I'm not wasting my time, although I am well aware of who I am dealing with. First off, Smith and Telang's Assessing the Academic Literature Regarding the Impact of Media Piracy on Sales paper concludes that the vast majority of the literature, particularly published in top peer reviewed journals, finds evidence that piracy harms media sales. Their main focus was on music and motion picture piracy, but this is germane to video games since they also have both visual and auditory elements. Their correlation method and regression formula found that digital piracy results in a decrease in sales of motion picture content. Second, BSA's Global Piracy 2008 study estimated that "losses [...] reach $53 billion worldwide in 2008. For every $100 of legitimate software sold, another $69 was pirated," and the data they looked into included PC games. You may argue that BSA is a software alliance group and their research was biased, and that's fine. GAO (non-partisan Government Accountability Office) agrees that the numbers are a little bit overestimated. But in GAO's report, while they found it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to quantify how bad piracy has an impact on sales and US economy, there is still a negative impact. It is merely just hard to quantify an estimated number. I have presented three published, peer reviewed research paper, one from the US government. Your turn, Pirate, to present concrete evidence that piracy doesn't hurt the copyright holders, but it has to fulfill these three requirements:

• 1. Your evidence needs to include research papers from top-recognized journals.
• 2. Your evidence may not come from some shady pro-piracy websites. Those are not research but self-proclaimed statements that says fallacious, bullcrap things pirates love to hear. I am not interested in those.
• 3. You may not just throw me some sales number and claim that "the most successful consoles had rampant piracy". That is not how a scientific research conclusion is reached. For example, larger cities have more crimes than smaller cities. Do we then conclude that crime is a good thing since it helps cities grow? No. It's as ridiculous as your claim and I am not interested if your counter-argument is like that. (A logical conclusion is simply that the higher the population, the number of human to human interactions/encounters/conflicts also rises, and thus higher chances for crimes to occur. Basically, large denominator, large numerator.)

Finally, piracy, by definition, is stealing. Just like SquareFingers said.

* a well-researched, fully thought out post *

I love you so much right now.

Every argument needs evidence. You say piracy is bad then you have to prove it.

A pirate who speaks of evidence and research? I'm impressed. Maybe you can engage in an intellectual argument unlike most wannabe 13yo kids who don't give a damn to copyright infringements (a federal crime punishable by <5 year of jail time and <$250,000, under Title 17, United States Code, Sections 501 and 506) and just want free stuffz. Very well, I shall entertain the idea of debating with a pirate with research-based evidence this time. Hopefully I'm not wasting my time, although I am well aware of who I am dealing with. First off, Smith and Telang's Assessing the Academic Literature Regarding the Impact of Media Piracy on Sales paper concludes that the vast majority of the literature, particularly published in top peer reviewed journals, finds evidence that piracy harms media sales. Their main focus was on music and motion picture piracy, but this is germane to video games since they also have both visual and auditory elements. Their correlation method and regression formula found that digital piracy results in a decrease in sales of motion picture content. Second, BSA's Global Piracy 2008 study estimated that "losses [...] reach $53 billion worldwide in 2008. For every $100 of legitimate software sold, another $69 was pirated," and the data they looked into included PC games. You may argue that BSA is a software alliance group and their research was biased, and that's fine. GAO (non-partisan Government Accountability Office) agrees that the numbers are a little bit overestimated. But in GAO's report, while they found it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to quantify how bad piracy has an impact on sales and US economy, there is still a negative impact. It is merely just hard to quantify an estimated number. I have presented three published, peer reviewed research paper, one from the US government. Your turn, Pirate, to present concrete evidence that piracy doesn't hurt the copyright holders, but it has to fulfill these three requirements:

• 1. Your evidence needs to include research papers from top-recognized journals.
• 2. Your evidence may not come from some shady pro-piracy websites. Those are not research but self-proclaimed statements that says fallacious, bullcrap things pirates love to hear. I am not interested in those.
• 3. You may not just throw me some sales number and claim that "the most successful consoles had rampant piracy". That is not how a scientific research conclusion is reached. For example, larger cities have more crimes than smaller cities. Do we then conclude that crime is a good thing since it helps cities grow? No. It's as ridiculous as your claim and I am not interested if your counter-argument is like that. (A logical conclusion is simply that the higher the population, the number of human to human interactions/encounters/conflicts also rises, and thus higher chances for crimes to occur. Basically, large denominator, large numerator.)

Finally, piracy, by definition, is stealing. Just like SquareFingers said.

This is why we need a like button.

I do acknowledge the fact that piracy is convenient and gratifying because we are such creatures. You gain free access to stuff, just like shoplifting, and it's such an adrenaline rush. I know the psychology and it's your judgment/freedom/responsibility if you get caught anyway. That, however, is no proof that piracy increases games' sales. Exactly like my city analogy, it's just large denominator (a successful develop) followed by large numerator (pirates). It is still a bad thing to do. I need a like button for both of you, too!

I entirely agree. I do see why pirate thinks that it isn't bad (pirate one thing, like it, actually purchase their content, increase sales), however lohadl is correct in the fact that piracy does hurt income from said-company.

Pirate, I must say, you got rekt.

I don't people share Pirate's opinions..._{At all}

I think that company's like Viacom that have a monopoly on the TV and movie business would like you to think that piracy hurts the economy but it doesn't. Nobody stopped making music and movies the moment Kazaa became popular they just came out with iTunes and made even more money. I agree with Pirate that piracy forced the entertainment industry to step up their game. We don't buy a $10 CD for one song anymore and we don't buy a hordes of DVDs we stream movies.