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  • #1 ✎ 143 TheV360 Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength First Day Joined on the very first day of SmileBASIC Source Website Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself Pi STARTER is a Raspberry Pi image that runs SmileBASIC. It is sorta based on the PasocomMini's version of SmileBASIC, but without the emulation, and with more support for stuff like 3DS programs and gamepads. Pi STARTER will only run on the Raspberry Pi computer. While sounding like it's a kit, it's only the disk image on an microSD card. What we know
    1. Normal SmileBASIC, with some extensions allowing for HTTP stuff
    2. It can run 3DS SmileBASIC programs.
    3. Based on Raspbian
    4. Pretty much the Pasocom Mini, but with a good Pi powering it (Raspberry Pi 3 B and B+)
    5. No release date yet? A forum is up, so release must be close.
    6. No US/EU release. Hope it comes to us too.
    7. More "maker" focused. (Some Google API API for reading Japanese text easily, Raspberry Pi GPIO pin maps, breadboards, LCD screens)
    Japanese site: Link Japanese Twitter: Link All Screenshots: Link ↓ The boot screen ↓ The main menu. Controllable with either mouse or keyboard. Has options for gamepads and the SMILE button. ↓ What appears to be the updater, showing an empty progress bar? ↓ The console. Note that there are png files and subfolders. ↓ The editor screen. Seems like there will be either resolution settings or zoom levels, based on another screenshot. ↓ The GPIO Monitor, or at least a guide for it. ↓ SOLID GUNNER-R ↓ GAME4_SHOOTER running in XSCREEN 4, proving that 3DS programs run. ↓ A Raspberry Pi with a HAT on. The small screen is mirroring the larger screen's drawings, using the GPIO commands. ↓ A small clock, probably also running off SmileBASIC. SPECULATION: Could SmileBASIC code compile to Arduino code? I saw a sorta Arduino-like device in another image. (Arduboy, anyone?)
    Posted Edited by TheV360
  • #2 ✎ 393 chicken OSP Contest 1 Contest Participant I participated in the first SmileBASIC Source OSP Contest! Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website Good Page Hidden Achievements Wow, SB's really branching out now. EDIT: What immediately comes to my mind is a 3DS-esque machine powered by a SB Pi. Posted Edited by chicken
  • #3 ✎ 894 snail_ Helper Received for being very helpful around SmileBASIC Source Achievements OSP Contest 2 Contest Participant I participated in the second SmileBASIC Source OSP Contest! Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself So the software won't be available separately? Posted
  • #4 ✎ 32 Plancake Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Reading I like to read books! Hobbies There's so many possibilities with this, making a D.I.Y. gaming system could be made so much easier! this would be especially useful because I don't know how to make anything decent with Python, and am more comfortable with BASIC, but it's too bad that it might not release outside of Japan. Posted
  • #5 ✎ 884 Y_ack Head Admin Important things I saw: - PNG spritesheets/images - Top Menu buttons: BASIC instruction demo, Options, Update built-in software, Write program, Tips Viewer, Paint Tool, GPIO Monitor [nice], File Management Notably lacking: cloud server file management. I suspect that FM button launches the file viewer also included in the screenshots, so... - Builtin file manager does include "Mount / detach USB storage" and "Download files" commands but the scope isn't know and the lack of an "upload" makes me think that download doesn't refer to the public key system. Even with HTTP, I doubt they'd get rid of the security they have in needing to go through the NN service... it waits for more information. - Options include input configuration, "tool settings," "audio," but most exciting to me: - "Auto Start:" [None] [Default] [Smile [Program] 1] [Smile 2] this sounds like a way to run programs on boot, which I've been talking about for a while now. (Default vs. None is probably whether to print the splash) var v$=system$("sudo shutdown -h now")- And of course the demonstration of an RPG with two users connected and a chat system as a hint at http multiplayer capabilities - Apparently Ctrl-O toggles a "safe area" around the screen - Seems to be based on pcmini but with additional raspi features - Compatible with 3DS programs (with the exception of changed instructions), but again no real indication of how you get them on there without typing them out. It is important that it supports a 3DS-like screen mode, I guess - I think I remember it being compatible with other USB hardware as well e.g. drawing tablets, so you can make osu! in SB or whatever
    商品は、microSDのみのご提供となります。 Raspberry Pi 3、キーボード、マウス、電源、HDMI入力対応TVは別途ご用意ください。 認証やアップデートを行うために、有線ケーブルによるインターネットに接続できる環境も必須となります。 *Raspberry Pi 3 Model B専用 (他の機種については動作確認が取れ次第応予定
    The product is offered as a microSD card only. Raspberry Pi 3, keyboard, mouse, power supply, HDMI input compatible TV sold separately. In order to perform authentication and updating, it is also required to have an environment that allows you to connect to the internet via wired cable. *exclusive for Raspberry Pi 3 Model B (for other models, operation will be confirmed)
    beta testing reports suggest that it works on Pi Zero as well Awaits more qualified opinions. Edit: there's already an update: https://app.smileboom.com/pistarter/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3&sid=fa5e4868bde0356e561906e894d71862 Very exciting words in there. Edit 2: Feature summary: https://twitter.com/tksm372/status/1015173123879026688
    Posted Edited by Y_ack
  • #6 ✎ 884 Y_ack Head Admin AAAAA Posted
  • #7 ✎ 237 Shelly Just to make sure, this is an official SmileBASIC product? Its only 36 dollars? Posted Edited by Shelly
  • #8 ✎ 393 chicken OSP Contest 1 Contest Participant I participated in the first SmileBASIC Source OSP Contest! Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website Good Page Hidden Achievements
    Its only 36 dollars?
    36 dollars is for a microSD with SB on it. After the port is developed, it really isn't that expensive to buy some cheap microSD cards and copy the product onto them. If it sells okay, they'll definitely make their money back.
    Posted Edited by chicken
  • #9 ✎ 884 Y_ack Head Admin https://twitter.com/tksm372/status/1015173892552290304 >There is no public key mechanism >you can upload to the internet somewhere >download from url or copy files whiiich on the one hand is better than the option of being restricted to a Smileboom-owned server but they're still independent domains. Maybe if someone runs a mirroring server? Or a Smileboom + Trinitro partnership for a trusted third-party to have a special key into the smileboom-owned cloud server... https://twitter.com/mml_mania/status/1015413758041059328 >The SD card has two partitions FAT32 and EXT4, and everything stored in smilebasic is stored in FAT32 HTTPGET$ HTTPPOST$ The SD card is a raspbian + smilebasic configuration. https://twitter.com/notohoho/status/1015499750857007104 >all menus are written in smilebasic, so someone could make alternatives if necessary Posted Edited by Y_ack
  • #10 ✎ 188 ProKuku Avatar Taboo I didn't change my avatar for 180 days Website First Year My account is over 1 year old Website Pokemon Is Awesome! I love Pokemon! Express Yourself Is this going to be on the 3ds? Just checking to be sure. Posted
  • #11 ✎ 237 Shelly
    Is this going to be on the 3ds? Just checking to be sure.
    You're not understanding. This is kind of like the Pasocom mini (not really but sort-of), since it runs SmileBASIC on a raspberry pi. Its just a new platform for SmileBASIC basically.
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  • #12 ✎ 188 ProKuku Avatar Taboo I didn't change my avatar for 180 days Website First Year My account is over 1 year old Website Pokemon Is Awesome! I love Pokemon! Express Yourself
    Is this going to be on the 3ds? Just checking to be sure.
    You're not understanding. This is kind of like the Pasocom mini (not really but sort-of), since it runs SmileBASIC on a raspberry pi. Its just a new platform for SmileBASIC basically.
    Ok, I just checked out what Raspberry pi and pasocom mini were. makes a lot more sense now lol. I sure hope it does come to America; it would be awesome to use.
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  • #13 ✎ 894 snail_ Helper Received for being very helpful around SmileBASIC Source Achievements OSP Contest 2 Contest Participant I participated in the second SmileBASIC Source OSP Contest! Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself So if there is no central download service but instead a HTTP mechanism... would this mean SBS would have to start hosting a download service if we want to support PiSTARTER? We totally *could* support keys and everything and someone would have to make a fancy browser client. Posted
  • #14 ✎ 1550 12Me21 Admin Syntax Highlighter Received for creating the code syntax highlighter on SBS Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website We could also just use any existing file hosting service if someone wants to write code for it. Posted
  • #15 ✎ 59 atm959 Avatar Taboo I didn't change my avatar for 180 days Website Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website Zelda Is Awesome! I love The Legend Of Zelda! Express Yourself This is very neat! I hope that this will be completed, translated, and released internationally! Posted
  • #16 ✎ 237 Shelly Some videos of what we can expect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpLkaUJn5t4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJAaK6qEjXk Posted
  • #17 ✎ 34 PetitProfessor Would anybody be interested in buying my pasocommini? Still has the box/stickers and I’ll even throw in a pi power cable. Posted
  • #18 ✎ 884 Y_ack Head Admin instruction reference is now available: https://app.smileboom.com/pistarter/reference/ Posted
  • #19 ✎ 31 Mr_Mo Reading I like to read books! Hobbies Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Zelda Is Awesome! I love The Legend Of Zelda! Express Yourself How much would you be interested in selling it for? Posted
  • #20 ✎ 143 TheV360 Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength First Day Joined on the very first day of SmileBASIC Source Website Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself On September 9th, Pi STARTER will be available to purchase online via this site. Preorders have already started, but I think they're only available at the physical shop. Source Edit: Sold out, but you can get it here. Posted Edited by TheV360
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