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  • #1 ✎ 396 MasterR3C0RD Helper Received for being very helpful around SmileBASIC Source Achievements Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website osu! Is Awesome! I love osu! Express Yourself Took a look at the SmileBASIC Japanese site earlier and found http://smilebasic.com/pcmini/ which refers to https://www.pcmini.jp/ It looks like HAL Laboratories (the same people that brought you Kirby) are making a mini-computer based on the Raspberry Pi Model A, which will run SmileBASIC and a MZ-80C emulator. This means that we'll finally have a better way to figure out SmileBASIC's internals, since it's not as difficult to decompile a Linux ELF as SmileBASIC's .code.bin. Maybe we'll finally be able to crack the SmileBASIC file format's footer. Posted
  • #2 ✎ 806 snail_ Power User Helper Received for being very helpful around SmileBASIC Source Achievements Expert Programmer Programming no longer gives me any trouble. Come to me for help, if you like! Programming Strength Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website Ooh, it will run on Linux? Now I'm curious. Though, it's very possible this will be a different/tweaked version of SB, or the internals will at least be different (different hardware, after all.) Taking a cursory glance at the manual tells me this is the case. Nothing short of a miracle if this leaves Japan though. Posted
  • #3 ✎ 1305 12Me21 Admin Syntax Highlighter Received for creating the code syntax highlighter on SBS Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself I'm guessing it's mostly identical to SB, with a few extra features. Posted
  • #4 ✎ 4 uyjulian Looks like it will come out in the middle of the 10th month of 2017. Posted Edited by uyjulian
  • #5 ✎ 92 DrZog https://twitter.com/notohoho/status/920152057264226305 Its finally out in the land of Rising Sun. Looks pretty neat if impractical for programming. (want to see if cassette deck works mostly) Posted Edited by DrZog
  • #6 ✎ 63 niconii Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Expert Programmer Programming no longer gives me any trouble. Come to me for help, if you like! Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies The cassette deck is just for looks, according to reviews. It looks like you can actually open it and take the little plastic cassette out if you want, though, which is kinda fun. Posted
  • #7 ✎ 1305 12Me21 Admin Syntax Highlighter Received for creating the code syntax highlighter on SBS Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself I hope this is released outside of Japan... Posted
  • #8 ✎ 806 snail_ Power User Helper Received for being very helpful around SmileBASIC Source Achievements Expert Programmer Programming no longer gives me any trouble. Come to me for help, if you like! Programming Strength Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website
    https://twitter.com/notohoho/status/920152057264226305 Its finally out in the land of Rising Sun. Looks pretty neat if impractical for programming. (want to see if cassette deck works mostly)
    It would be really interesting if someone hacked a microcassette deck into one of these things. Doesn't it have GPIO?
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  • #9 ✎ 118 mystman12 First Day Joined on the very first day of SmileBASIC Source Website Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Man, I want one of these so bad. A product made by HAL *and* SmileBOOM? Yes please! Posted
  • #10 ✎ 31 PetitProfessor Dang! If anyone figures out how to buy one of these things let me know. It looks like the only way to get international shipping is to call them and I doubt they have a press two for English. Posted
  • #11 ✎ 78 amihart I found a Japanese article that claims "The emulator (microcomputer mini) saved in microSD is licensed only to Raspberry Pi set in the product. (It seems that it will not start on other Raspberry Pi)". Apparently, it will require work to get the image to boot on your own Pi, which sucks. It also looks like it has a Raspberry Pi 1.1 Model A+, which is a $25 board. And given the price their charging for this thing, it's pretty much a rip-off. Posted Edited by amihart
  • #12 ✎ 31 PetitProfessor Well that's a bummer. Still pretty cool that they designed a version of Smilebasic for an FPGA and threw in the ability to play with the IO pins. If anyone else wants to throw away a bunch of money, I managed to order one using whiterabbitexpress.com as a proxy for the shipping. Posted Edited by 12Me21
  • #13 ✎ 1305 12Me21 Admin Syntax Highlighter Received for creating the code syntax highlighter on SBS Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself How much does it cost anyway? Posted
  • #14 ✎ 31 PetitProfessor $175 Posted
  • #15 ✎ 1305 12Me21 Admin Syntax Highlighter Received for creating the code syntax highlighter on SBS Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself Oh, that's not THAT bad. EDIT: Does that include shipping costs? Posted Edited by 12Me21
  • #16 ✎ 396 MasterR3C0RD Helper Received for being very helpful around SmileBASIC Source Achievements Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website osu! Is Awesome! I love osu! Express Yourself
    Well that's a bummer. Still pretty cool that they designed a version of Smilebasic for an FPGA and threw in the ability to play with the IO pins. If anyone else wants to throw away a bunch of money, I managed to order one using whiterabbitexpress.com as a proxy for the shipping.
    The RPi isn't an FPGA though, it's an ARM based computer
    Posted
  • #17 ✎ 31 PetitProfessor I spent an extra $20 on the white rabbit express service and another $20 on expedited shipping. I don't mean to belittle the PI. I just see GPIO and label it an FPGA. Posted
  • #18 ✎ 78 amihart
    I spent an extra $20 on the white rabbit express service and another $20 on expedited shipping. I don't mean to belittle the PI. I just see GPIO and label it an FPGA.
    An FPGA is an integrated circuit that contains programmable logic gates, if you want anything to run in an FPGA you usually would code it in a hardware description language and load that into the FPGA. Essentially, an FPGA is used for developing hardware since it acts as an actual integrated circuit would using your specifications. The Raspberry Pi is not this. It is simply a personal computer. It has an ARM microprocessor, video and audio ports, USB ports, WiFi and Bluetooth, etc. The code ran on a Pi is software. You typically, at least to my knowledge, wouldn't distribute hardware with an FPGA in it. FPGAs are used for designing hardware that you then get manufactured as a real chip. While Raspberry Pis can just be reprogrammed at your leisure since it's all software.
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  • #19 ✎ 78 amihart
    To the best of my knowledge saying that someone designed a SmileBasic for an FPGA is like saying someone designed SmileBasic for an arduino, it doesn't really make an since due to the fact that an FPGA is nothing like a computer CPU. They're two completely different things which should not be confused with each other.
    If they did manage to get SmileBASIC running on an FPGA, it's be a much greater feat. It'd mean that they've essentially designed a chip that can, at a hardware level, execute SmileBASIC code. It wouldn't even require a computer to run SmileBASIC, and It'd likely be absurdly fast.
    Posted Edited by amihart
  • #20 ✎ 31 PetitProfessor I'm glad you nerds are having fun with this lol. Just saying, that's pretty nifty that you can program the GPIO from inside Smilebasic. Posted
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