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  • #1 ✎ 94 thou_fatGAMER12 Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Beginner Programmer I'm just starting out! I'm still trying to grasp the basics. Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies Hello. I am a really big fan of Plants vs zombies. i know i could get in trouble for something like this, but i still want to attempt to make a game similar or as close to it as possible. With Pvsz3 coming out soon it tells me popcap will certainly not make plants vs zombies 2 for 3DS. E.V.E.R. so i think i could create something like it. It will have retro graphics. I've basically made all i need (for sprites. i'm a big fan of pixel art so i tackled that pretty quickly) but there is the ACTUAL game still left to code. I have a lot to learn when it comes to coding but i'll be fine. i know the basics and i'm learning more advanced things right now. (i just got SmileBASIC a few weeks ago so i still have a lot to learn and to memorize most of the language) It'll take super long. So support and tips would help. :-) P.S.i'm new to this community so don't throw a lot of hate at me. At least right now. this stuff is new to me and i'm trying my best. :-( Posted Edited by thou_fatGAMER12
  • #2 ✎ 94 thou_fatGAMER12 Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Beginner Programmer I'm just starting out! I'm still trying to grasp the basics. Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies Also yes I know it isn't good to tackle HUGE projects as your first thing and annouce it, but i'll be fine if i do enough research... And yes i created my account recently but i've had the game before i even found this website. boy, I was wrong Posted Edited by thou_fatGAMER12
  • #3 ✎ 455 HTV04 Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength Avatar Taboo I didn't change my avatar for 180 days Website Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website
    Also yes I know it isn't good to tackle HUGE projects as your first thing and annouce it, but i'll be fine if i do enough research...
    I really wouldn't start with something so big. Try smaller things first.
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  • #4 ✎ 94 thou_fatGAMER12 Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Beginner Programmer I'm just starting out! I'm still trying to grasp the basics. Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies
    Also yes I know it isn't good to tackle HUGE projects as your first thing and annouce it, but i'll be fine if i do enough research...
    I really wouldn't start with something so big. Try smaller things first.
    yea i already explained that im still gonna work on it anyways. (plus i'll have help from family and friends.) i understand. many projects have been cacelled for the same reason. But i WILL be fine.
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  • #5 ✎ 311 banana RNG Hidden Easter Eggs Third Year My account is over 3 years old Website Expert Programmer Programming no longer gives me any trouble. Come to me for help, if you like! Programming Strength Look. I don't intend to be mean or rude, but if you don't have a somehow sturdy knowledge on how to code, I wouldn't recommend you to go that fast on projects. It's like not knowing composition and saying "I'm gonna write a 5-hour symphony" Posted
  • #6 ✎ 94 thou_fatGAMER12 Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Beginner Programmer I'm just starting out! I'm still trying to grasp the basics. Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies
    Look. I don't intend to be mean or rude, but if you don't have a somehow sturdy knowledge on how to code, I wouldn't recommend you to go that fast on projects. It's like not knowing composition and saying "I'm gonna write a 5-hour symphony"
    i have already spent some much time on it that i will not let it this project go. even if i'm not a master of coding i will learn. and i've already said this will be a loooonnnngggg process. i get it. but i'll still do it. your and HTV04's criticism makes sense but it doesn't matter. plus it's a recocommendation (sorry if that was spelled wrong) i'll still work on it. And if i can't finish it. I'll get someone else to help me. (plus i'm just starting with ancient egypt and basic zombies and basic plants nothing else. I'd problably add pirate seas in an update and that'll be it. nothing amazing or to big. and yes for a beginner that's big, and even for decent people that's problably hard to but after spending so much time on this (with out telling) I'm not giving up. Call it impossible (for me), Call it Too Ambitous, Make me feel bad, i don't care and yes this will problably take years but i will not let up. Thanks for the telling me but i'll be fine. (although considering all the comments telling me to stop i would problably quit due to to much ?Negativity? because they're not being rude just trying to help.
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  • #7 ✎ 1232 rando Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website Forum Leader Hidden Achievements Yeah. You probably want to learn the basics first if you don't know that much, and after that you can learn more advanced stuff. And once you know enough, that's when you can start. I've learned this from experience. When I tried making some sort of BTD game when I had barely started, it didn't work out and I ended up deleting the project. But then I started to learn different things and get deep into different things, and eventually restarted the BTD game. Guess what. It also died. So I learned more, and kept going. Eventually I got so deep that a few months ago, I restarted it yet again, and it's still going. (also it's going really good, almost at release :)) Or in other words, don't go for the big stuff yet. Shoot for the stars, get to them, don't act like you're already there. You need to get in your ship and travel there first. I would recommend randomouses tutorials, they are really easy to learn from. Super awesome tutoial Posted Edited by rando
  • #8 ✎ 94 thou_fatGAMER12 Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Beginner Programmer I'm just starting out! I'm still trying to grasp the basics. Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies Thanks for that. But other than going through this link i will not be replying to anybody anymore. got a LOT to learn and a LOT to code by for now (i may give an update everyso often) but not like every 5 minutes which is what i have been doing. thanks for the criticism. BYE lol. Posted
  • #9 ✎ 339 ProKuku Pokemon Is Awesome! I love Pokemon! Express Yourself Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself QSP Contest 1 Contest Participant I participated in the first SmileBASIC Source QSP Contest! I’m gonna have to agree with the others on this. Trying to make a fan-game of something like PvZ2 is just too big for having basically no programming knowledge. I’d really be interested in helping if you had more experience and/or SB had some features to make group projects easier. Just a side note, your profile description is about as relatable as profile descriptions get for me. Edit: I was typing this before you sent the message before this one Posted Edited by ProKuku
  • #10 ✎ 94 thou_fatGAMER12 Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Beginner Programmer I'm just starting out! I'm still trying to grasp the basics. Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies
    I’m gonna have to agree with the others on this. Trying to make a fan-game of something like PvZ2 is just too big for having basically no programming knowledge. I’d really be interested in helping if you had more experience and/or SB had some features to make group projects easier. Just a side note, your profile description is about as relatable as profile descriptions get for me. Edit: I was typing this before you sent the message before this one
    Umm O.K. thanks i get it. can people stop replying? (i get the point JESUS)
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  • #11 ✎ 38 S_DE_Solutions Avatar Block I didn't change my avatar for 30 days. Website Zelda Is Awesome! I love The Legend Of Zelda! Express Yourself
    Umm O.K. thanks i get it. can people stop replying? (i get the point JESUS)
    You can also start by writing different Engins (Input, Sprite using, Music, etc.)for your game and save them to seperate files. Thees can be tiny and than you can try to combine. So you can start with small projects and can follow your dream-game. (This sounds easier than it is.) (You don't need to reply this, i understand your frustration. But don't give up.)
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  • #12 ✎ 189 seggiepants Ok, let's back up a bit. Plants Vs. Zombies is not your property. If you want to make a fan game that is for you and only you and never is distributed to the rest of the world, well how can anyone stop you. However, if you want to share the game with the world, you have a problem. SmileBoom will remove projects from their servers that use other people's intellectual property. If you make a clone of Plants Vs. Zombies and put it on SmileBoom's servers, chances are it will get taken down. Even if it doesn't Zynga/PopCap can bring legal proceedings against you. It doesn't matter if you are making money off of it or not. All is not lost, because Copyright is based on expressions of ideas and not the ideas themselves. So, if you want to make Squirrels Vs. Clowns, that happens to play very similarly to Plants Vs. Zombies, well, you can do that and no one will stop you. Furthermore, if you wanted to say port it to Android or Steam you could even try to sell it. Just make sure it is reasonably different and isn't directly copying anything too specific. Sorry if that ruins all your pixel art. Now, on to the coding. People are trying to help you. You need to get your skills up before you try something of this magnitude. No one is saying you can't do it, they are telling you need to practice and learn with simpler things first. In fact if you do all of the learning and simple programs first, it is likely to take less time than trying to brute force your way through with the dream project. You are also more likely to have a better project overall if you put in the time to learn to do things well. DaVinci probably made thousands of pictures before he painted the Mona Lisa, everyone needs practice and skills building. If you don't put in the practice you are more likely than not to paint yourself into a corner and bury yourself in complexity. No one wants that, we want you to be successful. One more thing, if this going to take years, you may want to start on SmileBasic Switch, the 3DS's days are numbered. If you need some practice you could try out the exercises I swiped from exercism.io (5RDXV3CJ). Posted
  • #13 ✎ 94 thou_fatGAMER12 Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Beginner Programmer I'm just starting out! I'm still trying to grasp the basics. Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies
    Ok, let's back up a bit. Plants Vs. Zombies is not your property. If you want to make a fan game that is for you and only you and never is distributed to the rest of the world, well how can anyone stop you. However, if you want to share the game with the world, you have a problem. SmileBoom will remove projects from their servers that use other people's intellectual property. If you make a clone of Plants Vs. Zombies and put it on SmileBoom's servers, chances are it will get taken down. Even if it doesn't Zynga/PopCap can bring legal proceedings against you. It doesn't matter if you are making money off of it or not. All is not lost, because Copyright is based on expressions of ideas and not the ideas themselves. So, if you want to make Squirrels Vs. Clowns, that happens to play very similarly to Plants Vs. Zombies, well, you can do that and no one will stop you. Furthermore, if you wanted to say port it to Android or Steam you could even try to sell it. Just make sure it is reasonably different and isn't directly copying anything too specific. Sorry if that ruins all your pixel art. Now, on to the coding. People are trying to help you. You need to get your skills up before you try something of this magnitude. No one is saying you can't do it, they are telling you need to practice and learn with simpler things first. In fact if you do all of the learning and simple programs first, it is likely to take less time than trying to brute force your way through with the dream project. You are also more likely to have a better project overall if you put in the time to learn to do things well. DaVinci probably made thousands of pictures before he painted the Mona Lisa, everyone needs practice and skills building. If you don't put in the practice you are more likely than not to paint yourself into a corner and bury yourself in complexity. No one wants that, we want you to be successful. One more thing, if this going to take years, you may want to start on SmileBasic Switch, the 3DS's days are numbered. If you need some practice you could try out the exercises I swiped from exercism.io (5RDXV3CJ).
    LOL. i was gonna troll everybody by making the game, showing it off and then never releasing it because they doubted me... guess smile boom agrees. ;-( Also i will not let my pixel art go to waste. sorry for anyone wanting to play a PvsZ game for free. i'll still make i just wont share it.
    Posted Edited by thou_fatGAMER12
  • #14 ✎ 94 thou_fatGAMER12 Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Beginner Programmer I'm just starting out! I'm still trying to grasp the basics. Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies Posted
  • #15 ✎ 94 thou_fatGAMER12 Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Beginner Programmer I'm just starting out! I'm still trying to grasp the basics. Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies Posted
  • #16 ✎ 94 thou_fatGAMER12 Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Beginner Programmer I'm just starting out! I'm still trying to grasp the basics. Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies And final... Posted
  • #17 ✎ 1232 rando Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website Forum Leader Hidden Achievements wow pixel art skills That's nice Posted
  • #18 ✎ 94 thou_fatGAMER12 Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Beginner Programmer I'm just starting out! I'm still trying to grasp the basics. Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies Dead before it started thanks to smile boom. well i guess it was inevitible. unless... i kept a secret game inside a original (bad) game! yes! this could work. i think i have to test it. unless they go through the code... Posted
  • #19 ✎ 94 thou_fatGAMER12 Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Beginner Programmer I'm just starting out! I'm still trying to grasp the basics. Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies
    wow pixel art skills That's nice
    thanks. I worked hard :-(
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  • #20 ✎ 94 thou_fatGAMER12 Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Beginner Programmer I'm just starting out! I'm still trying to grasp the basics. Programming Strength Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies one final screen shot for everyones favorite wiafu crazy dave and his zombie brothers.(heads) Posted Edited by thou_fatGAMER12
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