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  • #321 ✎ 1730 12Me21 Syntax Highlighter Received for creating the code syntax highlighter on SBS Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself Built in 3D engines are pretty silly, but it would be nice to at least be able to draw 3D polygons, so it would be practical to make your own. Posted
  • #322 ✎ 990 Yttria Head Admin
    Don't know if anyone else has already, but I contacted @notohoho about the possibility of a 3D engine and he said that SmileBASIC would not have a 3D engine in order to keep it stable. I guess we can cross this out of our wishlists. At least there's 3D engines like P3D and Poly3D, so 3D can still be a thing, and might even be faster thanks to the Switch being more powerful. I also contacted @notohoho asking if SmileBASIC might come to Windows, which could open up a lot of possibilities.
    both of these things have been asked by the Japanese community before.
    Posted
  • #323 ✎ 258 HTV04 Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength Avatar Taboo I didn't change my avatar for 180 days Website Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website
    Don't know if anyone else has already, but I contacted @notohoho about the possibility of a 3D engine and he said that SmileBASIC would not have a 3D engine in order to keep it stable. I guess we can cross this out of our wishlists. At least there's 3D engines like P3D and Poly3D, so 3D can still be a thing, and might even be faster thanks to the Switch being more powerful. I also contacted @notohoho asking if SmileBASIC might come to Windows, which could open up a lot of possibilities.
    both of these things have been asked by the Japanese community before.
    Did SmileBoom respond to the question about Windows?
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  • #324 ✎ 990 Yttria Head Admin Nope. The closest is answering questions about why the raspi version can't be used on windows. The kind of aura of "it's a stupid question and it would be a very bad idea for us to take a position that might be seen as commitment," if you ask me. There are a few good reasons they'd want to avoid publishing SmileBASIC on Windows (though none of these things have an official statement and you might consider them guesses)... It stops being unique, and is weird to sell (but if there isn't a price, then the pricing of the other versions becomes questionable), and all kinds of issues with transferring materials between versions (which the answer to would just be an unhappy 'not provided'). Posted Edited by Yttria
  • #325 ✎ 258 HTV04 Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength Avatar Taboo I didn't change my avatar for 180 days Website Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website Just got an answer to the question about a Windows version. He said that it’s actually under review, but they’re focusing more on SmileBASIC 4 at the moment. I’m just excited that they’re even thinking about a Windows version at all. This means that we finally might get a PC version of SmileBASIC.
    There are a few good reasons they'd want to avoid publishing SmileBASIC on Windows (though none of these things have an official statement and you might consider them guesses)... It stops being unique, and is weird to sell (but if there isn't a price, then the pricing of the other versions becomes questionable), and all kinds of issues with transferring materials between versions (which the answer to would just be an unhappy 'not provided').
    I wouldn’t say it would stop being unique, because it would still be one of the only programming languages on consoles. Plus, SmileBASIC is a very unique language in itself due to the fact that it’s a huge, modern take on BASIC, and I haven’t really seen anything similar to that (other than Python, I guess). Also, the price wouldn’t really matter, as it’s not just the programming language, it also comes with a lot of other software, like demos, GUIs, graphics, and more. EDIT: Just got an update that SmileBASIC 4 will be released in English! I’m even more excited now! Notohoho said that there will be a small wait after the Japanese version is released to finalize translations. He also said that the final name has not been decided, but will most likely be SmileBASIC 4, but also said that one of the names might be Petit Computer 4 SmileBASIC. I’m hoping it’s the former.
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  • #326 ✎ 970 snail_ QSP Contest 1 Contest Participant I participated in the first SmileBASIC Source QSP Contest! Helper Received for being very helpful around SmileBASIC Source Achievements Amazing Contributor Someone thinks I'm an awesome person who has done so much for the community! Achievements Didn't they confirm months ago that an overseas release was in development? Posted
  • #327 ✎ 1730 12Me21 Syntax Highlighter Received for creating the code syntax highlighter on SBS Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself Petit BASIC Smile Computer 4 Posted
  • #328 ✎ 258 HTV04 Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength Avatar Taboo I didn't change my avatar for 180 days Website Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website
    Didn't they confirm months ago that an overseas release was in development?
    I don’t know, but I asked anyway.
    Posted
  • #329 ✎ 628 IAmRalsei Forum Leader Hidden Achievements First Year My account is over 1 year old Website Expert Programmer Programming no longer gives me any trouble. Come to me for help, if you like! Programming Strength
    Didn't they confirm months ago that an overseas release was in development?
    Yeah, it's old news at this point. Or, if you want to make a terrible pun, it's OLDS at this point.
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  • #330 ✎ 122 seggiepants
    ... snip ... Plus, SmileBASIC is a very unique language in itself due to the fact that it’s a huge, modern take on BASIC, and I haven’t really seen anything similar to that (other than Python, I guess). Also, the price wouldn’t really matter, as it’s not just the programming language, it also comes with a lot of other software, like demos, GUIs, graphics, and more.... snip
    A huge modern take on BASIC? Sorry I must protest that one. QBasic/QuickBasic had user defined types, SmileBasic doesn't. QuickBasic had a compiler, SmileBasic doesn't. QuickBasic came out for DOS in 1985, Petit Computer for the DS around 2012. C++ was adding classes to C in what, something like 1983? When the 8-Bit Guy talks about making his dream computer, I think that he should really check out SmileBasic. However if you are talking modern, I would think about vastly different things like say: classes, inheritence, interfaces, templates/generics, run time type information, object query language (LINQ is sweet), concurrency/threading, garbage collection, etc., etc. I mean come on, Smile Basic still has GOTO, that is a dead give away by itself. It is intentionally retro. I am quite fond of SmileBasic, but I wouldn't call it modern. Python or perhaps more on point VB.net sure, SmileBasic uh no. Still unique, still fun, just not modern. If anything, I would think the reason they don't put it on Windows, Mac or a more open version of Linux is that they would have a hard time competing with free. The DS, 3DS and Switch are all locked down, they are the only game in town there. On windows you get to compete not with just Lua/Love or Python/Pygame but also things like GameMaker, Unity or GODOT plus a bunch of web based options like say Construct3.
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  • #331 ✎ 1730 12Me21 Syntax Highlighter Received for creating the code syntax highlighter on SBS Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself Garbage collection isn't a modern thing; I'm pretty sure every version of BASIC uses it. Posted
  • #332 ✎ 7 tomrow Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength
    The list of builtin functions looks like it was the result of someone saying "Ok quick write down a bunch of functions that sound useful!"
    I've just looked at this and the sprite commands (CREATESPRITE and REMOVESPRITE specifically) remind me a lot of an old programming language called OPL, which was used on the Psion Series 3 and Psion Series 5 PDAs.
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  • #333 ✎ 122 seggiepants Is there a command reference out for the Switch version? I don't see anything on the site, but I never did make it past the login wall. Did they do anything to let you z-order the sprites? I don't see anything, but it might be there. Looks like you can at least use a generated image now instead of everything being pulled from file. For the z-order question, I am thinking of double dragon/final fight. You don't want a person in the background drawn over the top of someone in the foreground. Posted
  • #334 ✎ 970 snail_ QSP Contest 1 Contest Participant I participated in the first SmileBASIC Source QSP Contest! Helper Received for being very helpful around SmileBASIC Source Achievements Amazing Contributor Someone thinks I'm an awesome person who has done so much for the community! Achievements I believe all of the images here are taken from videos. Posted
  • #335 ✎ 122 seggiepants That explains it, thanks. Posted
  • #336 ✎ 258 HTV04 Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength Avatar Taboo I didn't change my avatar for 180 days Website Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website I feel that while this a thread for Nintendo Switch discussion, FUZE BASIC discussion should be moved to another thread. I feel like this thread should be more about SmileBASIC 4, since it's coming out soon, at least until it releases. Posted
  • #337 ✎ 236 AnswerXOX Great Page Hidden Achievements RNG Hidden Easter Eggs Third Year My account is over 3 years old Website
    I feel that while this a thread for Nintendo Switch discussion, FUZE BASIC discussion should be moved to another thread. I feel like this thread should be more about SmileBASIC 4, since it's coming out soon, at least until it releases.
    I think it's appropriate to have all Nintendo Switch topics encompassed here. And it's not like there's many details coming out about SmileBASIC 4, so we make do with what we get here.
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  • #338 ✎ 990 Yttria Head Admin So 12 noticed that some of the FUZE videos are missing... I don't know which ones are gone on the current channel (a 3D demo and some other things, maybe?), but I do know that their old channel was deleted (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2xD4m1Obefwy0c7IxNgyVQ) Notable missing videos (from old channel) include the one discussed here http://smilebasicsource.com/forum?fpid=24537#post_24537 Also, the .wmv files in /bin were on the old channel Posted
  • #339 ✎ 970 snail_ QSP Contest 1 Contest Participant I participated in the first SmileBASIC Source QSP Contest! Helper Received for being very helpful around SmileBASIC Source Achievements Amazing Contributor Someone thinks I'm an awesome person who has done so much for the community! Achievements Makes you wonder if they're covering for something. Not sure what they'd have to gain though? Or if they've seen this thread, even. Posted
  • #340 ✎ 1730 12Me21 Syntax Highlighter Received for creating the code syntax highlighter on SBS Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself They're trying to wipe out all evidence of "Hello FUZE fans" :( Posted
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