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  • #1 ✎ 32 cujo1992 I knew it was a risk. Even though the original GYRUSS is from 1983 and hasn't been released on a system since the DS version circa 2000... I cannot argue with the definition of Copyright. (The guys at KONAMI have been known to flex their muscles before .. glad it was only REJECTED) For those who took the time to download and evaluate the game, I really appreciate your sincere feedback. Time to get back to work... Posted
  • #2 ✎ 1034 randomous Power User Robot Hidden Easter Eggs Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies Dang, that's really unfortunate! Posted
  • #3 ✎ 32 cujo1992 thanks for the support randomouscrap! Posted
  • #4 ✎ 32 cujo1992 https://smilebasicsource.com/page?pid=418 I updated the submittal page to include an image from the actual game of reaching Earth - the pinnacle of the game (something I never got to in the arcade). Good times... Posted
  • #5 ✎ 762 Lumage Head Admin The concern is that to be taken down you generally have to be reported. *choking* Posted
  • #6 ✎ 32 cujo1992
    The concern is that to be taken down you generally have to be reported. *choking*
    It is quite convenient that The Lazer Wars is now on the top of the Smilebasicsource homepage. Hmmm.... (Just kidding Joshuawl !!! )
    Posted Edited by cujo1992
  • #7 ✎ 312 joelable First Day Joined on the very first day of SmileBASIC Source Website Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies this definitely sucks i didnt even get to play it Posted
  • #8 ✎ 118 mystman12 First Day Joined on the very first day of SmileBASIC Source Website Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Wait, how does this infringe on copyrights though? It has a different name, different art, different music... (Unless someone thought Bach was copyrighted or something.) I guess just being a clone was bad enough? Posted
  • #9 ✎ 805 snail_ Power User Helper Received for being very helpful around SmileBASIC Source Achievements Expert Programmer Programming no longer gives me any trouble. Come to me for help, if you like! Programming Strength Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website This really does suck, you did a very good job with this. I could see why Konami would find a reason to strike this (especially considering their behavior as of late) but the fact that it actually happened is just unfortunate. As Lumage said, it was more than likely just some dude reporting it for infringement, which is just a really lame thing to do when you only really use the concept of the original as a base. If this were disputed you may have a chance, but more likely not. Sorry this has to happen :-[ There's always alternative file transfer methods like PetitModem, I guess. Posted
  • #10 ✎ 92 DrZog Can someone with homebrew capabilities upload CYCLONE's files so it isn't completely erased from human history due to one idiot false-flagging for infringement? This crap makes me furious, and more people should take a stand against it. Posted
  • #11 ✎ 123 glennxserge I've contacted SmileBOOM to see if there is any recourse for false flagging. Or if they can at least take a second look to make sure it wasn't swept up by a an automated process that might be erroneous. cujo1992, they may ask for additional information, like your NNID or the program key (both of which I do not have). If you aren't comfortable sending that to me in a PM. I'm happy to forward you the email chain once I hear back from them. Posted
  • #12 ✎ 32 cujo1992
    I've contacted SmileBOOM to see if there is any recourse for false flagging. Or if they can at least take a second look to make sure it wasn't swept up by a an automated process that might be erroneous. cujo1992, they may ask for additional information, like your NNID or the program key (both of which I do not have). If you aren't comfortable sending that to me in a PM. I'm happy to forward you the email chain once I hear back from them.
    Glennxserge If they reply I'll gladly send you info offline. Thanks!
    Can someone with homebrew capabilities upload CYCLONE's files so it isn't completely erased from human history due to one idiot false-flagging for infringement? This crap makes me furious, and more people should take a stand against it.
    Dr.Zog I dont have any home brew set up on my system for fear it will wreck my kid's 3ds (yeah - kinda pathetic). If I could figure that out... Where could I put the files?
    Posted
  • #13 ✎ 1304 12Me21 Admin Syntax Highlighter Received for creating the code syntax highlighter on SBS Night Person I like the quiet night and sleep late. Express Yourself there's always encryption. of course it can still get reported, but they won't see it during their normal checks. (and yes, I think they do review programs that aren't reported, but it probably happens a few days after upload.) Posted
  • #14 ✎ 211 Lacks RNG Hidden Easter Eggs Day Person I like the warm sunshine and wake up early! Express Yourself Reading I like to read books! Hobbies
    (and yes, I think they do review programs that aren't reported, but it probably happens a few days after upload.)
    I wish they would send you a reason why they remove your program. Even just an automated "your program broke one or more of the following rules" My purely original "game" was taken down with no explanation after a week and all I had to do was remove the curse words to get it back up. Does Konami own the copyright to "space invaders in a circle?"
    Posted Edited by Lacks
  • #15 ✎ 805 snail_ Power User Helper Received for being very helpful around SmileBASIC Source Achievements Expert Programmer Programming no longer gives me any trouble. Come to me for help, if you like! Programming Strength Second Year My account is over 2 years old Website
    Does Konami own the copyright to "space invaders in a circle?"
    Funnily enough, when I first played this I thought "hey, this is kinda like Tempest!" Which isn't a Konami game, it's by Atari and I believe it came before Gyruss. There was a lawsuit, Capcom v. Data East, which basically ruled that mechanics of a game in a purely functional form cannot be protected unless they also serve some kind of artistic purpose or something (legal speak is strange...) So if it was in fact them, they don't really have a leg to stand on in terms of copyright. However! In the purchase of SB you are legally bound to a contract that states SmileBoom can drop your content if it gets reported. So you don't really have a leg to stand on either. It's a lose/lose. If I had any weird crackpot advice to give it would be this: don't mention the game you're basing it on in theb official publishing, nor in the game itself. Crediting your bases and inspirations is great, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone soiled their pants over the fact you used the word "Konami" without a permit. Just some food for thought. That isn't to say it's YOUR fault; it isn't. But stupid claims are stupid, so who knows?
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  • #16 ✎ 32 cujo1992
    If I had any weird crackpot advice to give it would be this: don't mention the game you're basing it on in theb official publishing, nor in the game itself. Crediting your bases and inspirations is great, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone soiled their pants over the fact you used the word "Konami" without a permit. Just some food for thought. That isn't to say it's YOUR fault; it isn't. But stupid claims are stupid, so who knows?
    I thought about this when I posted the game. Anyone who knows GYRUSS would immediately recognize it - and I didnt want to claim the inspiration was my own... especially not with this community. I suppose I could have said "a game from 1983 that rhymes with [spy-puss] and designed by a company that doesnt have a plumber for a mascot". (Hmm... that is pretty catchy) Oh - and no worries about "fault". I do take ownership for this one... my next game will be more original. Thanks!
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  • #17 ✎ 55 atm959 Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength Video Games I like to play video games! Hobbies Drawing I like to draw! Hobbies
    this definitely sucks i didnt even get to play it
    Me neither.
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  • #18 ✎ 147 pirate First Week Joined in the very first week of SmileBASIC Source Website Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength Here are Cyclone's files https://a.cocaine.ninja/sowulx.rar Posted
  • #19 ✎ 9 william341 First Month Joined in the very first month of SmileBASIC Source Website First Week Joined in the very first week of SmileBASIC Source Website Avatar Taboo I didn't change my avatar for 180 days Website
    Here are Cyclone's files https://a.cocaine.ninja/sowulx.rar
    How do I use them?
    Posted
  • #20 ✎ 147 pirate First Week Joined in the very first week of SmileBASIC Source Website Intermediate Programmer I can make programs, but I still have trouble here and there. Programming Strength
    Here are Cyclone's files https://a.cocaine.ninja/sowulx.rar
    How do I use them?
    either upload the original files to the 3DS with petit modem or inject the raw files into the extra save data using some tool (you might have to create a folder first in SmileBASIC, not sure about the files).
    Posted
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